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Khergit Deserters
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Posted - 2014.03.25 16:08:00 -
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Sentamon wrote:Xander Delacroix wrote: If CCP don't do anything about this, then they are condoning this kind of behavior as being acceptable.
Look up the world slander. If you're truly concerned you should forward this matter to law enforcement and let professionals deal with it, not smear CCP with it. It's only slander, libel, or defamation if what is stated isn't true. Jester's blog links a file that was publicly posted, then makes comments on the contents of the file. That's not defaming anyone. |

Khergit Deserters
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Posted - 2014.03.25 16:19:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:Darek Castigatus wrote:Kara Vix wrote:If CCP takes no action against Erotica, then they are sanctioning this behavior and are no better than he is. I expect better from them. So you expect them to take action when no breach of either the EULA or the TOS has occured purely based on your dislike of his behaviour? No but sometimes there are occasions, situations which fall outside the the EULA and TOS. Not everything in Life is black and white. Every so often something will happen that will fall outside the EULA and TOS and which is morally wrong. In this situation we have a person / small group of people who have taken an in game situation outside the game to circumvent the rules to a level which at best can be described as bullying. Now yes CCP can say that since it is happening on voice comms outside of their control they can ignore it and say it is outside their control, or they can say that they find this behaviour reprehensible and do not want their game to be associated with this type of behaviour and act in what ever way they feel is appropriate. One thing they can not do is stay silent and hope it all goes away because people like Erotic and his friends tend to keep pushing the envelope further and further and will one day no doubt one day find somebody who is vulnerable, a 12 year or somebody in a weak mental state and the result will be terrible. Just going to put a ^ here, because I can't say it any better myself. |

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Posted - 2014.03.25 16:44:00 -
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Pashino wrote:Malcanis wrote:18 pages in and I'm still waiting for someone to tell me where they think CCP's responsibility to police our out of game actions ends.
Oh, I don't think they can 'police' anything out of game. No bearing on current issue presented in the thread, either. The problem is, once you become aware of something, you're on notice. And then if something bad happens, you can end up being held legally liable. If you are aware of a risk and don't take reasonable precautions, that falls under the definition of negligence. |

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Posted - 2014.03.25 20:12:00 -
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Jill Chastot wrote:Also for the grr goons squad (because of tinfoil)
"mynnnaMarch 25, 2014 at 5:39 AM
Erotica1 had an alt in a goon membercorp (or perhaps it was his main character, who knows) and when he brought attention to himself trying to brag about his actions we shot him in the head for it. " Good point. If something is too disgusting for Goons, it's probably something that's proscribed by every civilized society in the world. |

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Posted - 2014.03.25 22:06:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Khergit Deserters wrote:Jill Chastot wrote:Also for the grr goons squad (because of tinfoil)
"mynnnaMarch 25, 2014 at 5:39 AM
Erotica1 had an alt in a goon membercorp (or perhaps it was his main character, who knows) and when he brought attention to himself trying to brag about his actions we shot him in the head for it. " Good point. If something is too disgusting for Goons, it's probably something that's proscribed by every civilized society in the world. There is more to it than that. OK, it was a joke. But there was that Goons Do Not Support Mayo thread, no? |

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Posted - 2014.03.26 17:03:00 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:*sigh* I see the U.S. prime contingent are back with the old the-victim-is-stupid-so-what-happened-to-him-is-perfectly-justified schtick. Hurting stupid people is actually much more heinous than taking advantage of someone that should know better. This ain't some slapstick comedy on the telly. This is real life. When you hurt people in real life it's bad. When a game company allows you to use their game to fish for victims, it's even worse. Do you people have any morality left? Mr Epeen  Well said. And that pretty much sums up the whole issue discussed over 150+ pages. |

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Posted - 2014.03.26 21:33:00 -
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LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:stop posting From: XXXXXXXXX Sent: 2014.03.26 21:13 To: LUMINOUS SPIRIT,
Dude, 20 bil isk for you if you quietly stop posting.
Interesting. E1 thinks I can be quietly bought off for a mere 20 bil? Lol? Take the isk, then require that he win a bonus room session before you actually stop posting?
(Sorry, that was evil. Couldn't resist). |

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Posted - 2014.03.27 01:39:00 -
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(50 more pages since I checked 3 hours ago. Somebody doing a Psychology, Sociology or even Anthropology Master's or Ph.D. could have ready-made sources for a thesis right here). |

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Posted - 2014.03.27 01:49:00 -
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Mario Putzo wrote:Khergit Deserters wrote:(50 more pages since I checked 3 hours ago. Somebody doing a Psychology, Sociology or even Anthropology Master's or Ph.D. could have ready-made sources for a thesis right here). doubtful. You would get more out of watching congress for an afternoon.

But why not? You have a self-contained community group. Members of the group are expressing opinions about a controversy about the accepted mores of the group. And to express one's opinion, one has to be a verified member of the community group. Or at least an alt of a verified member of the group. You get bonus points on your thesis for addressing the uniquely internet-culture "multiple voices for one member via alts" issue. |

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Posted - 2014.03.27 17:16:00 -
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Fredfredbug4 wrote:lollerwaffle wrote: So let me ask you some simple questions: Does Erotic 1 deserve a ban (some are even pushing for a lifetime ban)? If yes, on what grounds? Which rules did he break to result in this punishment?
I do not think he deserves a ban within the current set of the games rules. As I said before, victims willingly put themselves through his horrible mind games. They can opt out of playing or leave at anytime they chose. What I would like to see happen is for CCP to change the rules, and if Erotica 1 keeps doing what he's doing, then and only then would he deserve a ban. The problem is not that Erotica 1 is breaking the rules. It's that he's doing something we should have rules against, which is his method of humiliating players. I have nothing against scamming at all (and this is coming from someone who was scammed in the past). What I do have a problem with is humiliating someone until they break. Only the first part of these bonus rooms is a scam. The rest is shitting all over someone until they drown in it for several hours. I'd agree. It's hard to see where he technically broke any of the existing rules. It wouldn't be fair to ban somebody for doing something that wasn't clearly and plainly a bannable offense. It would be more fair to give him a warning, then publish a clarifying policy for the whole community to see.
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Posted - 2014.03.27 17:52:00 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:The feedback in this thread is very much appreciated, and we've been watching it since it was first posted. While we can appreciate that tensions are high, please remember to keep within the forum rules when posting. We'll have more information for you guys in the coming days.  Speaking of being tortured.... Poor Falcon, ISD, anyone else who's obligated to read every one of these posts. I can imagine a few sources of suffering: -The same argument, repeated over and over by the same poster. -The same argument, repeated over and over by latecomers who didn't scroll up. -Evidence of inattention/poor reading skills. -Arguments between space lawyers over little issues-- that don't even matter. -Vast sections of the Great Wall of Text. -Multiple back and forth arguments/sub-threads. That interweave with each other over 280+ pages. -Blockheaded obstinate stubbornness. -Etc.
Have a beer when you get off work, moderators, you deserve it.
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